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Comments on the Nicene Creed
Updated: 03/12/2020

This is the Nicene Creed, the foundation for Greek and Roman Catholic, and general Christendom's Orthodoxy:

Nicene Creed as altered in 381 CE

We believe in one God, the Father Almighty, Maker of heaven and earth, and of all things visible and invisible.
And in one Lord Jesus Christ, the only-begotten Son of God, begotten of the Father before all worlds (æons), Light of Light, very God of very God, begotten, not made,
being of one substance with the Father; by whom all things were made;
who for us men, and for our salvation, came down from heaven,
and was incarnate by the Holy Ghost of the Virgin Mary, and was made man;
he was crucified for us under Pontius Pilate, and suffered, and was buried,
and the third day he rose again, according to the Scriptures, and ascended into heaven, and sitteth on the right hand of the Father;
from thence he shall come again, with glory, to judge the quick and the dead;
whose kingdom shall have no end.
And in the Holy Ghost, the Lord and Giver of life, who proceedeth from the Father, who with the Father and the Son together is worshiped and glorified, who spake by the prophets. In one holy catholic and apostolic Church;
we acknowledge one baptism for the remission of sins;
we look for the resurrection of the dead, and the life of the world to come. Amen.

Christendom has never made sense out of all of what they reference above:

Notice that:

They believe that the “Father” preceded Jesus in sequence of existence.
    This is just backwards in that Jesus is the ONLY original person, and the "Father" consists of those unfallen humans that collectively have the privilege and hold the power, and that "fathered" him in his mother Mary, and nurtured him into being his original self..

The author of this English version transfers the word for "ages" into the word “worlds”.
    It is on this level of translation that the uneducated can go far astray in their thinking, for the word "world" here is only a metaphor for the zeitgeist of the age.

They believe that the Father, the Son, and the Holy Spirit are all persons.
    This is Trinitarian, and is not justified, not understandable, nor helpful in that it is little short of being superstitious.

They call the Father “God”, and Jesus “Lord”.
    This language is just not very meaningful at best, and at worst is misguided, wrong-headed and confusing.

They believe that the Father is primary and created “all things”.
    This is wrong in that Jesus is the Originator, and the father is his united, unfallen human children.

They think the Father and the Son sit on thrones in heaven, at least part of the time.
     This is not just shallow and laughable materialism but an aspect of the fundamental or original sin, in that these “persons” are held up to be superior, ordinate and dominate in nature and privilege.

They believe that there is to be another Parousia and apocalypse, another glorious visit or return and revealing.
    The word “Parousia” means a royal or official public presence, hence not so much a specific arrival nor relocation of proximity in time nor space. THE great Parousia has already taken place, and it went largely unrecognized and unappreciated.

1. PAROUSIA. (3952) This word occurs twenty-four times in the New Testament. It comes from the verb PAREMI which means "at hand," "to be present." The noun signifies "Presence." This verb emphasizes the actual personal presence of the one who comes. "Be patient unto the COMING (presence) of the Lord" (James 5:7). PAROUSIA never indicates the act of coming or the arrival of a person, but denotes the presence of one who has already arrived.  The Vine's dictionary incorrectly defines Parousia as either presence or coming.  Vine introduced this error to support his strong belief in the pre-tribulation rapture doctrine. Consider: I am present, here and now, with I am coming but I am not here but will be sometime.  These are opposite meanings.  Greek is a very precise language. If the bible says present it means present not I am coming.  Parousia can never legitimately be translated as coming or second coming.  If the Greek authors of scripture wanted to say coming they would have used the word ERCHOMAI.  Matt 24:3, 24:27, 24:37, 24:39, 1 Cor 15:23, 16:7,  2 Cor 7:6, 7:7, 10:10,  Phil 1:26, 2:12, 1 Thes 2:19, 3:13, 4:15, 5:23, 2 Thes 2:1, 2:8, 2:9, James 5:7, 5:8, 2 Pet 1:16, 3:4, 3:12, 1 John 2:28

They believe that there is to be another Apocalypse, another glorious visit, return or revealing.
    The word “Apocalypse” means an uncovering or revealing, hence not a dramatic destructive event. THE great Apocalypse has already taken place, and it went largely unrecognized and unappreciated.

2. APOKALUPSIS. (602) This word comes from the verb APOKALUPTO meaning "to uncover, "unveil," and stresses the appearing or revelation of one by means of an uncovering or unveiling. It is the disclosure of one who has been hidden under cover.

They see Jesus as being and sitting some day as THE judge.
    To the contrary, He said that we would be the “judges”.

They believe that the Holy Spirit comes from the Father.
    Curiously, this is close to the truth, in that the Holy Spirit is the attitude, mindset, morale, and the power that comes from that of the unfallen.

They believe in a “Church” and not an Ecclesia.
     As you and I should see, there is a big difference. I am part of the Ecclesia, and want no part of any usual or traditional church outside of meaningful fellowship.

They believe in the efficacy of water baptism.
     This again is just shallow materialism and mysticism, and misses the mark of baptism with the spirit, the commitment, enthusiasm or inspiration that comes from seeing and understanding the truth.

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